BRAINWAVES
VI.  Quotations
Simeon and Wesley This account of a meeting between the young Charles Simeon and the aged John Wesley appears as a footnote in the Preface to Volume 1 of Simeon's Horae Homileticae (expository outlines on the whole Bible).  "A   young   Minister,   about   three   or   four   years   after   he   was   ordained,   had   an opportunity   of   conversing   familiarly   with   the   great   and   venerable   leader   of   the Arminians    in    this    kingdom;    and,    wishing    to    improve    the    occasion    to    the uttermost,   he   addressed   him   nearly   in   the   following   words:   'Sir,   I   understand that    you    are    called    an    Arminian;    and    I    have    been    sometimes    called    a Calvinist;   and   therefore   I   suppose   we   are   to   draw   daggers.   But   before   I consent   to   begin   the   combat,   with   your   permission   I   will   ask   you   a   few questions,   not   from   impertinent   curiosity,   but   for   real   instruction.'   Permission being   very   readily   and   kindly   granted,   the   young   Minister   proceeded   to   ask, 'Pray,   Sir,   do   you   feel   yourself   a   depraved   creature,   so   depraved,   that   you would   never   have   thought   of   turning   unto   God,   if   God   had   not   first   put   it   into your   heart?   -   'Yes,'   says   the   veteran,   'I   do   indeed.'   -   'And   do   you   utterly despair   of   recommending   yourself   to   God   by   any   thing   you   can   do;   and   look for   salvation   solely   through   the   blood   and   righteousness   of   Christ?'   -   'Yes, solely   through   Christ.'   -   'But,   Sir,   supposing   you   were   first   saved   by   Christ,   are you   not   somehow   or   other   to   save   yourself   afterwards   by   your   own   works?'   - 'No,   I   must   be   saved   by   Christ   from   first   to   last.'   -   'Allowing   then   that   you   were first   turned   by   the   grace   of   God,   are   you   not   in   some   way   or   other   to   keep yourself   by   your   own   power?'   -   'No.'   -   'What   then,   are   you   to   be   upheld   every hour   and   every   moment   by   God,   as   much   as   an   infant   in   its   mother's   arms?'   - 'Yes;   altogether.'   -   'And   is   all   your   hope   in   the   grace   and   mercy   of   God   to preserve   you   unto   his   heavenly   kingdom?'   -   'Yes;   I   have   no   hope,   but   in   him.' -   'Then,   Sir,   with   your   leave,   I   will   put   up   my   dagger   again;   for   this   is   all   my Calvinism;   this   is   my   election,   my   justification   by   faith,   my   final   perseverance: it   is,   in   substance,   all   that   I   hold,   and   as   I   hold   it:   and   therefore,   if   you   please, instead   of   searching   out   terms   and   phrases   to   be   a   ground   of   contention between us, we will cordially unite in those things wherein we agree." "The   Arminian   leader   was   so   pleased   with   the   conversation,   that   he   made particular    mention    of    it    in    his    journals;    and    notwithstanding    there    never afterwards   was   any   connexion   between   the   parties,   he   retained   an   unfeigned regard for his young enquirer to the hour of his death."  The meeting with Simeon is referenced in John Wesley's Journal under 20th December 1784.